Tile Removal, Dust Control…. A Complete Bath & Shower Demolition Guide

by | Last updated May 31, 2019 | Shower Remodel

Are you looking for some detailed actionable advice from a remodelling expert about demolishing your bathroom shower?

 

If so, you won’t be disappointed with this post.

 

This is Steve from SKG Renovations (Steve’s bio) with more great tips on shower demolition and shower remodelling. I will help you through the entire Demo process…… 

step by step.

Important Safety Note:

 

If you want to do this job responsibly, you and / or your contractor MUST wear the proper gloves, ear, eye, and lung protection and the proper footwear during every stage of the demo AND the entire rebuild.

 

The demolition stage is especially unpredictable & dangerous. Make sure you don’t take any chances with your personal health and safety. Take things slow, be very careful, and follow my advice !

First Step, Tub Drain Removal

 

The tub or shower base must be first disconnected from the drainage line before these items can be removed and disposed of.

 

For a bathtub, it usually involves unscrewing the drain base. With older tubs, especially the steel ones, this can be challenging since the tub drain flange is almost always rusted.

 

Insert a pry bar or a pair of heavy duty pliers onto the drain opening to get some leverage, and try to unscrew the drain base from the tub drain flange.

 

If this does not work, I usually use a piece of flat steel stock (1/8″ thick, 1 1/2″ – 2″ wide, 6″ long) and hammer it ruthlessly into the drain hole. Just be sure that it’s not too wide to distort the tub drain flange (making the situation worse!).

 

Then use a pair of channel lock pliers or long vice grips to clamp onto the metal bar and turn. This method has rarely failed me.

 

If it fails to unscrew, unfortunately your only option is to cut out a small section of the tub (around the drain) to free the whole drain assembly (not fun with a steel tub).

Keeping the Tub?

 

If you decide to keep the tub, you are going to have to be very careful to cover and protect the tub surface before demolition.

  • I would first suggest using masking tape to cover the entire tub rim (see images).
  • Then tape a layer of cardboard onto the tub rim.
  • Then place a piece of 5/8″ plywood cut to size, on the tub rim, covering the entire tub opening.
  • Also tape all around the perimeter of the plywood to ensure that nothing falls in the gap around the plywood sheet. 

 

The plywood will protect the tub and provide a work surface for the demo, framing prep, and backer board install.

 

I know it seems like a lot of hassle but believe me, you will appreciate it many times over as you work through the different stages of your shower remodel project.

 

It only takes one piece of old tile falling on the tub surface during demo, to cause irreparable damage (along with the inevitable cursing, sadness and regret, of course).

Remove the Tub?

 

Removing the tub is a lot easier after the wall tiles are demolished because the perimeter tiling flange remains under the wall tiles.

 

I will show you the best way to remove your bathtub after the tile demo section below.

Shower Pan Removal

Removal of the shower pan (shower base) is the first step that I take in any shower stall remodel if the shower pan is made of concrete.

 

Most old school concrete shower bases are poured (or dry pack) bases that were applied over a rubber liner that lays over the concrete or plywood subfloor.

 

Since you can easily get a prybar underneath these liners, you can pry the entire shower base up off the subfloor.

Smash it!

 

Proceed to pry the liner & base high enough to wedge a piece of scrap wood underneath. Then smash the shower base with a hammer anywhere above your spacer (I do like smashing things).

 

The space created by the scrap wood allows you to easily crack the brittle concrete into bits.

 

The shower base material will be immensely heavy so you will have to proceed with this technique until you smash it into pieces that are light and small enough to bag and dispose of.

 

After cleanup, the shower pan liner will be exposed so you can begin cutting it away with a utility knife.

 

If you like, you can try to use the liner to get under the tile and backer board with a pry bar. If there is framing (backing) between the studs, you can sometimes use this to easily pry off the bottom section of tile and backer board.

 

Sometimes it makes it easier to remove this lower section of wall tile, and sometimes it just crumbles to bits and creates a huge mess. You can try it and judge for yourself if it’s worth doing.

The Result:

What About the Drain?

 

You may have noticed that I neglected the shower drain removal procedure. I did this because in my experience, it’s far too time consuming and difficult to figure out a way to disassemble any walk in shower drain unless the shower installation is less than about 10 years old.

 

A few of these older shower drains (in concrete bases) are easy to remove but most are not. You can certainly go ahead and attempt it before tackling the shower base removal, but don’t waste too much time on it.

 

After the base has been smashed to bits the drain assembly (and the liner it’s connected to) will be exposed and much easier to remove. Cut the liner out of the way to expose the drain pipe.

 

I would suggest at this point that you check if you can access the drain coupling that is beneath the shower drain. These couplings are almost always rubber banded couplings (or Mechanical Joint couplings). There are hex screws on these couplings so the pipe can be easily removed with a socket wrench of some kind.

 

If there is access, I usually detach the top section of drain pipe connected to the shower base drain. That way you can replace it with the exact size piece you need when installing the new drain.

 

Otherwise you are stuck with cutting the existing drain pipe. This is very difficult and awkward especially if it’s cast iron. The remaining section will likely be too small for the new shower base drain as well.

 

If this is a cast iron section of pipe, you should plan on replacing it with plastic ABS pipe instead. It’s much easier to work with, compatible with solvent welded drain assemblies, and very strong.

 

At this point you can cut away the rest of the rubber liner. It will likely be attached under the wall tile for about 8″ – 12″ above the floor.

Water Shut off

 

This would be good time to turn of the water supply to the shower or if that’s not possible, to the entire bathroom.

 

Very often this is also not possible without shutting off the water to all or part of your home. If this is the case, you will have to be extra careful when demolishing the valve wall.

Shower Trims

With the tub protected or removed (or shower base), you can then proceed to remove the shower fixture trims.  If the water supply has not been shut off, you’ll have to be extra careful during this step.

 

 

Tub Spout

 

The most common type of tub spout has a Allen head set screw on the underside of the spout next to the wall. The spout can be removed by loosening this set screw (with Allen key) and sliding the spout straight out from the wall.

 

Often there is a bead of silicon sealing it to the tile. If present, you will have to cut this away with a utility knife before you can remove the spout.

 

 

Valve Trims

 

The valve assembly trim can usually be removed by first removing the water control levers (hot and cold) or the single control lever.

 

This can usually be accomplished in one of two common ways.

 

The first way is by prying off the H or C caps of the control lever(s), then unscrew the levers by the center screw that fixes the lever to the valve body.

 

If the water supply is still turned on, you must be very careful to keep the lever from moving while unscrewing the set screw. You WILL turn on the water if you allow this lever to turn.

 

After these levers are removed, the rest of the trim removal is usually quite straightforward.

 

There may be two obvious screws on the face of the trim that you can remove.

 

Alternately, there may be a ring at the base of the water supply control(s) (where the levers were attached). This ring holds the trim against the wall and can simply be unscrewed.

 

This should release the trim from the valve body.

 

There may also be a bead of silicon that you must cut away before the trim separates from the wall.

 

 

Shower Head and Shower Arm

 

And finally, if it is a standard shower head, it can simply be screwed off. The shower arm can also be unscrewed from threaded shower head coupling inside the wall.

 

You can use channel lock pliers or Vice Grips for this if you don’t want to retain the shower arm for future use. If you do, you’ll have to use a strap wrench to remove it, so you don’t damage the finish.

 

It’s a good idea to leave this step until last, just in case you accidentally turn on the water during valve trim removal. The water then pours over you rather that into the stud wall cavity behind the tile.

 

The tile demolition stage is next, but first I’d like to provide you with some important advice about demolition and construction dust control.

Demolition / Construction Dust Control

The bathroom demolition stage is EXTREMELY dusty. Construction dust can also be a problem throughout the entire shower remodel.

 

 As such, I have a suggestion to largely prevent the dust from migrating into the hallway and/ or other rooms in your home during the demo and construction stages of your shower remodel.

 

The easiest way to accomplish this is to create a dust suppression system using your regular (ceiling mounted) bathroom exhaust fan, if you have one. No matter how lame your old bathroom exhaust fan may be, you can easily and effectively eliminate dust from getting through the bathroom door and into your home.

 

To use this construction dust control strategy effectively, you will have to keep the bathroom door closed or just slightly ajar so that air can move into the room while the fan is on.

 

If there is a window in the bathroom, it should remain CLOSED during any dusty work in the room. You also need to make sure that there is a fresh air supply outside of the bathroom to supply the bathroom fan with a continuous flow of air (leave a window open in the living room, for example).

 

This may seem confusing but it is all about the physics of air flow. To verify that it’s working as described, you can (and you should) verify that air is blowing into the bathroom under the bathroom door, before you proceed with any dusty work.

 

This dust suppression strategy assumes that you will be replacing this fan later down the road when the dustiest part of the remodel is complete.

 

The bearings in the fan motor really take a beating if you use this dust control strategy so I don’t recommend it unless you plan to replace the fan.

 

 

Alternate Dust Control Strategy #1

 

If your bathroom doesn’t contain an exhaust fan (it really should), or you don’t plan to replace it later, you will have to use a different tactic to control the demo dust.

 

In this case I would suggest buying a small cheap exhaust fan and mount it into an open window in the bathroom.

 

You will have to do a good job sealing around this fan and the window opening to ensure that air will not enter the room from gaps around the fan.

 

This can be accomplished by cutting out a shroud of plastic to cover the open section of the window completely. Use lots of masking tape around it’s perimeter to make sure it is fully sealed.

 

Then you simply cut a hole in the middle of the plastic for the fan blade section and apply masking tape all around to keep air from coming in around the fan.

 

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